annieahoy wrote:

april6263 wrote:

guys...just want to put this out there....it's coming from my heart....the last few days have been much more than rough waters for our ship it's been more like a hurricane...we don't know whats going on with Maks and Meryl and well i wish i had a magic wand to wave and make it all better but i don't...when we first met  on the ABC boards we were all just some random people who had a mutual affection for two dancers....but something happened along the way...we have become so much more than that... we have become friends....friends who understand and support each other....the less than 20...we can't nor should we control MNM....what happens between them is theirs...this is just my opinion but i think we need to let go of alot of the stressing and worrying over everything...let's just "Let it Be" by the beattles....we will get answers one day but that may be a long ways away....in the meantime no matter where we stand on the relationship we can still be fans of theirs and their dancing and celebrate that...after all it gave us each other....i like coming on here in the evenings and hearing about how all your days went and having fun with our parties and supporting each other....that is "ours" ....and i want it to stay "ours" so yes while we still follow tweets and instas and gossip about whats going on with them and talk about our feelings about them whether they be  good or bad and post pics and videos can we just still remember that at the end of the day whats theirs is theirs and whats ours is ours and not stress so badly??? i'm still here holding hands...and i will send Cek in her James Bond boat and Jet in her airplane and Val in his swim trunks and Carries track team and Cassidy's grandson (to tackle them)  after anyone that falls off because this ship isn't just about the romance (though thats part of it) it's about celebrating two people who are responsible for bringing us together....whether they are together or not...we're going to have ups and downs and we will support each other through them...but can we let out a collective deep breath and just let go of some of the stress...and just channel Doris Day and the "Que Sera Sera" song....and LOL...  we have a whole new season coming up to cheer on our PLL and Val and diss Derek and rant about Julianne and laugh at Peta trying to figure out Tommy Chong and Whitney doing the Carlton and Mark meeting Uncle Si and getting to know Keo and Allison....what do you say anyone with me on not stressing so much????


 

Agreed we need less stress; the only way I can do that right now is to write scenarios in my head that has them getting together. Maybe I'll write a movie script and submit it!HAHA My son knows Steve Buscemi so maybe he can tell me what to do. I KNOW this is ridiculous talk, but it's the only way I can deal at the moment. Thanks for your input, April.
 

LOL...hey that's good we need the humor and to laugh....and you can be ur fan fic writer!!LOL

CEK40 wrote:

JetmamaDiDi wrote:

april6263 wrote:

yeah we know she oesn't give up on things easily....she kept after that gold medal for 17 years!!!

 
Well, this is true--and Maks has a need to resolve stuff with exes and former partners. So maybe this is some tantrum that he's got going right now?! LOL I think that people who always try to "fix" things like he does just have conflict about themselves. It's a lack of confidence--and that it is ok to have a problem with someone that maybe can't be resolved--and then you have to let it go. I am a person who doesn't really like conflict, but I do stand on principle and I voice my opinion. I don't expect everyone to agree with me. You realize you can't please everyone and you make a value judgement about how important or unimportant the person as a WHOLE is--and decide if some issue is worth giving up the relationship. Most of the time it isn't worth sacrificing the relationship. I'll bet Maks tries to fix everything with everybody because he can't forgive himself for his possible role in creating the problem.

Jet I think you are on to something here...I do believe that Maks has a huge problem with lack of confidence and he over compensates in other ways...I don't mean things that are bad but I think sometime he doesn't know what to do to make things right and he is always trying to fix something when he neglects to look at himself...

I think that most of the time his values (as he speaks them) are fit and proper; I just think he doesn't know how to step back, do some deep breathing, take a long walk, bike ride, or run, sleep on it, pray on it, and allow the situation to unfold--THEN act.  It saves a whole lotta grief if you just ignore it for a little while, think/sleep on it, then see how you feel.  Most of the time you have more clarity after 24 hours and mos things aren't that important.  Maks over compensates because he's a type A personality, very passionate, and does carry a lot of anger, whether or not he knows or recognizes that.  He could use some help developing coping skills, I think.  His first line of defense is acting out--which he does (such as ALM) as a knee jerk response.  That opens the door to out of control behavior.  Then you look foolish, have to apologize, or decide you aren't gonna apologize, which creates more conflict and anger.  Better to allow it some time and be rational in the response--IF it is even worthy of a response.  Meryl was perfect in her responses.  She just smiled and said, "'thank you."  Maks could learn from that!!

april6263 wrote:

annieahoy wrote:

April, you're the one who posted the videos for us; you know, the four videos that explained how Maks feels about Meryl. He articulated so beautifully his opinion of her, his admiration, so many great things he said that it almost sounded like a Nicholas Sparks novel. How could he go from that to the man we think we are seeing now? 
I don't want anything I say to sound like a defense of Maks or Meryl; I'm just trying to make sense of it all because that's how my psyche works. It's easy to defend Meryl, but I don't know about Maks now. I'm wondering if he's sort of gone off the deep end over the DWTS thing. If you saw him on Extra when Tony asked if he would like to judge, Maks' face lit up and he said, of course I would judge -- I have a lot to say! I think he took it for granted that he could be hired as a judge, and when that didn't happen, it may have thrown him into a tailspin. He may be acting out now without saying it but perhaps his attitude is this: Well! DWTS rejected me and some people may look down on me for that, so I'll show everybody!  I'll go on this five-day luxury trip to Italy and take a woman with me. How many of YOU were important enough to be invited? He may actually be trying to mask pain and going about it all wrong.
Let's face it -- he's not going to marry this girl unless he has gone completely off the deep end. And, if he were to do something so foolish, it wouldn't last.
He may be worried about future ventures too.  First -- acting. He has no guarantee of being successful at this and he must know it. That has to be scary.
Then, the jewelry. I sincerely hope and pray that I don't offend anyone here -- we all have a right to our different tastes. Maks is dealing with the men's jewelry, and, let's face it, most men won't wear jewelry other than a watch or wedding ring. Two women who interviewed Maks for a TV (or radio) show said they would love to buy a piece for their husbands, but they don't wear jewelry. Remember the gold chains of the 70s? That was a fad that didn't last too long. Most men who would go around now with a shirt unbuttoned down to there and a chain on would be ridiculed. The biggest clients for this would be for a costume (Halloween or other) or dancing. Hipsters and gays would go for it, but most hipsters couldn't affort it . The stuff is NOT cheap. This is an Italian company, and Italians don't always have the same tastes as Americans. Italy is where most of the jewelry would be sold, and I don't know if Maks' promotion of it would do that much good. 
I'm just rambling and rattling and trying to made sense of the world and hope I haven't offended anyone. If you disagree with me, I won't be upset, and would want to know. I get a lot from others' opinions that are different from mine.

Annie i don't know what's going on with Maks...i wish i did...but i don't think there are any cut and dried answers...we are trying to understand him from our points of view on life and thats not going to work because he comes from a different place...i think Meryl understands his world because the ice skating world is similar to the dance world...or why he's doing different things...but right now all i do know is that since he came back from India this man who has done so much to help with charities that are aimmed at preventing bullying and abuse....has himself been the recipient of it on sm....he is going through alot of big life changes right now too....so maybe we don't need to understand him...maybe we just need to "hold his hand"...while he works it out...

 
I would agree with that!  He probably needs Meryl's hand to hold and lap to put his head on but pride has gotten the better of him for some reason.  We can just hope and pray he comes to his senses and makes amends, if those are in order.  Once you've rung the bell you can't unring it--but you can try to "fix" it.  That is his MO.

Last edited by JetmamaDiDi (9/06/2014 11:49 pm)

CEK40 wrote:

JetmamaDiDi wrote:

april6263 wrote:

yeah we know she oesn't give up on things easily....she kept after that gold medal for 17 years!!!

 
Well, this is true--and Maks has a need to resolve stuff with exes and former partners. So maybe this is some tantrum that he's got going right now?! LOL I think that people who always try to "fix" things like he does just have conflict about themselves. It's a lack of confidence--and that it is ok to have a problem with someone that maybe can't be resolved--and then you have to let it go. I am a person who doesn't really like conflict, but I do stand on principle and I voice my opinion. I don't expect everyone to agree with me. You realize you can't please everyone and you make a value judgement about how important or unimportant the person as a WHOLE is--and decide if some issue is worth giving up the relationship. Most of the time it isn't worth sacrificing the relationship. I'll bet Maks tries to fix everything with everybody because he can't forgive himself for his possible role in creating the problem.

Jet I think you are on to something here...I do believe that Maks has a huge problem with lack of confidence and he over compensates in other ways...I don't mean things that are bad but I think sometime he doesn't know what to do to make things right and he is always trying to fix something when he neglects to look at himself...

and we have to remember Maks normal pattern...he tries to fix things and puts alot of pressure on himself and when it gets to much and the frustration builds he lashes out....Meryl figured that out in week six....and she gave us the answer....when he lashes out he needs to fall back on the friendship...

Ok I am going to think about all the happenings and then post something when I get my thoughts together...The one thing that I can say without a doubt is...
We all started on the ABC board to support then ship MnM...and somewhere along the way this group of us became more than just "fans" of MnM...we became friends with each other   The when the waters on ABC became to rough for us to sail we turned our ship around and found a "safe harbor" for us to stay...we went through a lot to get here so that we could stay together and not lose anyone along the way.
Don't get me wrong I love Maks and Meryl, their dancing, their chemistry, them together and I will be the first one to say that I truly believe that there is/was something special very special between them that developed during Season 18, but their relationship as a "couple" was in a way "our" meaning everyone on tumblr, Instagram, twitter, all the boards and not what they said they had.  Will or could it become more sure but right now it is what it is and there is nothing we can do about it because as Maks has always said "it is their relationship".  
The one think I can say is that I know what "our" relationship in the "Sisterhood of the Traveling Message Board" is, I am am not going to let MnM or their actions in their personal lives, or anyone else come between  "us".  I feel I have become close enough with you to call my friends...no my sisters and for that I am greatful...call me silly, nuts or even odd...but it is true for me.  I don't just enjoy coming on here and talking about MnM or DWTS but about us...what we are doing or going or have done...our days and our likes and dislikes about what ever we are talking about...our Monday Man Crush and TBT...our cakes and bar recipes....there is more to the "Sisterhood" than MnM.  

You know today I was thinking about MnM today and what their lives must be like living in a fish bowl all the time...no matter what you do our where you go you are being looked at, photographed, harrassed, etc....
Then there are people like us "shippers" as we are called...now we are no way like some of them on tumblr cause some of the stuff they post on there is just WAY over the top, but you have people tweeting them and posting things about why this and why that.  Then when they have apperances and show the first thing they are asked is something about their relationship, why arent they together, when are they getting married and having children.  It has to be overwhelming for them, especially with their lives changing...so maybe just maybe with the new season of DWTS things about them will settle down and they will kinda become a little less out there and if there is anything there who knows, but again it is between the two of them and we will cheer them on when or if it does happen...so for now let them live their lives like it or not...but lets not let them break us up!!!

I know some of the sisters have said they won't watch the new season of DWTS, but hey I think it will be pretty good and I am excited for Val and Janel and excited to see what they can do...Whitney and and Alfonso, oh and Tommy Chong and Betsy Johnson...then there is Artem (he is cute), so no it is not MnM but it may be pretty good anyway...

So I am here for you to laugh with, cry with, and even have a drink and cake with then  when aprils hands are full I will hold your hand...